Sunday, September 4, 2011

the new POS

Some funny comments about the new POS and what appears to be problems with Lotus

(crapwagon.com 9-3-11)

-JayInAtlanta
agreed. that video was pathetic. they ended up with essentially the same looks and sound as the current fecal chariot.


-Brake L8
Agreed. And CEO Bull thinks that's gonna make the fans come running through the gates to see their races?!? Most won't be able to tell a difference! What a complete waste. They might as well just run their old turd cars and save themselves the money, because that car isn't going to bring a single new fan into the series.


-Road America
The only way I can see that the .1RL had any chance of growing was to put together a car that looks and sounds proper. Epic fail. 'specially when the most logical 2.65l engine formula already exists. Last check still shows that I havent been dragged kicking and screaming or breaking down the gates to get near the new 'race car'.

Also the term "Fecal Chariot" just cost me a keyboard and a perfectly good glass of orange juice. :-) Thanks Jay!


-last2brake
Yep.

The new POS is the FecalChariot. The FC of the irl.

-scorpion
This just in, Lotus is in hiding.

"I can’t get them to return my call,” one IZOD IndyCar Series owner said. “Then, when I did get ahold of them, we had a conference call arranged and they never showed up. I’ve sent emails, left voicemails and they either don’t respond or take their sweet time getting back to me. Bottom line: I don’t have an engine deal yet.”

Interesting that Honda is adamant about supplying only their contractual 40% of the field. Want to bet if they supply more, they get to charge more.

If Lotus defaults, Berkman says Honda could help to fill the void, but the costs to do so would need to be satisfied by a party other than Honda.

And just who do you think that other party may be. The .irl? Please say it ain't so!

Reading further it is apparent that both Honda and Chevy will expect a higher lease price if they are asked to supply additional teams. Up to $300,000 more. Thus, the C teams, will get stuck even harder if they pay or the series will have to make up the shortfall. Either way, not an entirely equitable arrangement.

Honda's Berkman even suggests that there will be some teams who will not get to play in 2012, but the door could open for them in 2013. And where does he lay the blame for all this mess? Right in the lap of the series leaders who essentially wrote the rules, rather than negotiate a balanced agreement that is fair for all.


-Brake L8
Lotus is still trying to ensure they have enough cash to build the road cars they need in order to stay in business for the next 5 years, not to mention fund an F1 team. You really think Spindycar is important to them right now?? For what? Maybe they finally figured out what most have known for years...that they won't sell a single extra road car no matter how much exposure and/or success they have in Spindycar. No one cares, or is watching. And Spindycar's fan demographics don't point to Lotus buyers...Lotus would be better off with a GT car in ALMS or something. Aston Martin, BMW, Ferrari, Corvette, Porsche, Jaguar...that's who Lotus is competing against in the world marketplace. Not trying to outsell Honda in Accords and minivan's...


-CHAMPCAR1
Thats because Lotus was never in Mindycars. FKK probably thought he could get their involvement into supplying engines thru Cosworth, but the current situation works for them because they have no skin in the game. All they are doing is putting some Lotus decals on a Honda powered crapwagon. Now the EARL is counting on them providing some sort of engineering resources to the league and they can't be bothered. They have more important obligations like Lemans, F1 and making some road cars.


-mountainstar
I remember when the Lotus deal was first announced and the gomers were bouncing in the air like it was some $4 million a year deal.

All I had to do was check around and find that no money changed hands at all. All it was, was Lotus sending over 3 engineers on race weekends and doing a bit of minor engineering work in the UK. The main squeeze was kk trying to get Lotus to sub out some work to Cosworth involving road car production and other possibilities. Only this year did a small sum of money change hands. Also the perk for the team was to be able to have the car in Lotus colors for marketing and PR purposes, which looks and sounds a hell of a lot better than kv racing.

Lotus is overextended and many rumors of disharmony are coming to the surface with Dany Bahar's over ambition. Lotus is spending big and taking in little. We all know how those stories end up.


-CHAMPCAR1
Lotus got rejected for some government loans so that could be the reason why they are cutting non-essential motorsports like the EARL. Dany Bahar chewed off more than he could deliver by promising to throw Lotus money at almost every racing series out there...Looks like they did an engineering analysis and realized that the EARL involvement would not have delivered.


-DirtDevil1
sounding like Berkman & Kent already know Lotus V6 will be no-show.
Honda & GM planning to cash in, just like Firestone did...
Article mentions fitting spec chassis with tightly regulated (spec) turbos engines,
pretty much sums up how IRL racing gonna go 2012 and beyond.
further,
where's all Indy 500 engines for rest of field??

33 is just a number..


-DirtDevil1
not to worry,,, ropn Randy headed to United Kingdom Judd factory Monday to straittn out this 'little' hitch in the Rodeo..
Bernards even bringn 24piece craftsman tool set to help out!! (hope its metric)

long live the Vision